Sunday, November 2, 2008

Shirley Nagel: "No Treats for You If You or Your Parents Support Obama"

If it was Christmas, Shirley Nagel of Grosse Pointe Farms, Michigan would be the Grinch. Nagel was only giving out treats on Halloween to kids who supported her choice for President: John McCain.

A sign posted outside Nagel's house read: "No handouts for Obama supporters, liars, tricksters or kids of supporters."

I hate to say this, Ms. Nagel, but most kids of trick-or-treating age don't care that much about politics. And, they also don't have a choice about who their parents support. What you're being is a person that, when I was a kid, would have ended up with her house egged or TPed. Not that I'm encouraging that.

Nagel told a Fox 2 reporter that "Obama's scary." When asked about children who'd been turned away empty-handed and crying, she said: "Oh well. Everybody has a choice."

Actually, they don't. As I said above, kids don't have a choice who their parents support.

Readers, you have a choice as well. Her information is here. Or, if you'd rather not click through, it's 465 Belanger St, Grosse Pointe Farms, MI, (313) 884-2598. I'm sure she'd appreciate a phone call at 3 AM or so. Not that I'm encouraging that.

Watch a video story with her comments:

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Definition of a mccain supporter

Paranoid Personality Disorder
A brief summary of the typical symptoms of PPD includes:

-suspiciousness and distrust of others
-questioning hidden motives in others
-feelings of certainty, without justification or proof, that others are intent on harming or exploiting them
-social isolation
-aggressiveness and hostility
-little or no sense of humor

I'm so glad i'm not like her....i sleep well at night and am pretty happy most of the time....palin is pretty scary...has been beauty queens still looking for the limelight always are...

Glen M said...

If Senator Obama wins this election, the following is what it has taken to get a very questionable, extremely inexperienced, very junior first time Senator past the mark:

1. Senator Obama’s campaign is outspending Senator McCain’s campaign 4 to 1 or more in some locations. This is due to Senator Obama backing out of an agreement he made with Senator McCain.
2. Senator Obama’s campaign has opened up about 700 offices nation-wide versus less than 100 than Senator McCain’s campaign has opened up.
3. The mainstream media has been completely biased against Senator McCain.
4. Biased organizations, such as ACORN, have received contributions from Senator Obama, have been openly supporting Senator Obama, and are under investigation for committing voter registration fraud in multiple states favoring Senator Obama.
5 An enormous number of biased celebrities have been supporting Senator Obama and speaking out against Senator McCain.
6. Even though Congress is very unpopular, both sides are controlled by the democrats and have been making biased statements against Senator McCain.
7. Senator McCain is disadvantaged because of the unpopularity of the incumbent President.
8. All four of the debate moderators lean to the left and were not 100% fair.

Even with all of the biased and unfair things mentioned above that are running against Senator McCain, Senator Obama only has a narrow lead. Should he not be way out in front? I have heard people state that on the news from both campaigns. That should tell you something. Also, Senator Obama pulled a cheap shot on Senator McCain and the American public in regards to campaign financing. Both campaigns agreed to use public financing during the presidential campaign. At the last moment, Senator Obama backed out of his agreement and took private financing, giving Senator Obama a significant advantage over Senator McCain in financing his campaign. In addition, Senator Obama is not being totally open as to where all his contributions are coming from. But even though Senator Obama took a sucker punch and tricked Senator McCain and all Americans by backing out of his agreement, Senator McCain is keeping with his word and using public financing. This is severely disadvantaging Senator McCain’s campaign financing by putting much lower caps on the amount of money he will have available. This is the reason Senator Obama can outspend Senator McCain 4 to 1. This also shows that Senator Obama does not keep his campaign promises, just like his past campaign promises.

Just imagine what it will be like when you have both the House of Representatives and the Senate controlled by the democrats, and Senator Obama in the Whitehouse signing everything that comes across his desk from them. In other words, the person writing the check will also be the one cashing it. There will be no “checks and balances”, especially if the democrats pick up a few more seats in the Senate and it becomes filibuster-proof, which means they will have a monopoly. Again, there will be no checks and balances. We will have higher taxes, more government, and fewer rights. They have already promised all of those things. You will have a government that will tax the people that are creating the jobs so they can “spread the wealth around”. Who do you think creates the jobs in this country? Have you ever seen a business owned by a poor person? Are they the ones starting small businesses and creating jobs? Obviously not! So we have established the fact that the people that own the small businesses and create the jobs are NOT the poor. So lets talk about what is going to happen when they start taxing the people that do own the small businesses that create the jobs.

So what do you think will happen when they start taxing the small business owners? First, jobs will be lost. They will not be able to afford to keep the same amount of people they have now – they will have to let people go. In addition, they will not be able to expand their businesses and hire more people. The second thing that will happen is that prices will go up. Do you think businesses will not raise the cost of their products and services to offset the extra taxes they have to pay? This should be obvious. The prices will go up on everything and will affect everybody – to include the middle class and the poor. When you go to the grocery store, the food prices will be higher. When you go buy a car, the prices will be higher. When you go to the department store the prices are going to be higher. Put yourself in the shoes of a business owner; if your expenses go up, would you not raise the price of your products to pay for them? Of course you would! And taxes are an expense.

Now lets talk about presidential qualifications. When a federal employee or a member of the military has a need to have access to classified materials, they would need to get a security clearance. A security clearance attempts to certify that an individual is of high moral character and does not pose a security risk. If a federal employee or a member of the military admits to using a dangerous drug, such as cocaine, they will not be eligible for a security clearance. In addition, an admitted cocaine user would not be able to get in the military and if he or she is a federal employee, he or she would be moved to a position of lesser responsibility and not have access to classified materials. Senator Obama has admitted to using cocaine in his book that he wrote. As a candidate for president, should he not be held up to the same standards of a federal employee or a member of our military? As President, he is going to be exposed to an enormous amount of classified materials, have his finger on the nuke button, and be the commander in chief of the strongest military in the world. Would you not want someone in that position that can qualify for a security clearance?

Another point I would like to make is in regards to Senator Obama’s experience, which is a drop in the bucket compared to Senator McCain’s. With the world and the economy in such a delicate position, I cannot imagine why anyone would not want the most experienced person in the Whitehouse. Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and even Senator Obama’s running mate, Senator Joe Biden, have made statements to the fact that Senator Obama is not experienced enough to be President and that the presidency is not the type of job for on-the-job training. They also said that Senator McCain brings a lifetime of experience to the table. Senator Obama’s running mate, Senator Biden, even said he would even be honored to run “with” his friend John McCain. These individuals are now claiming that they said that during the primaries when they were running against Senator Obama. Does that mean they were lying then, or now? Senator Obama claimed that he had more diverse foreign policy experience because he lived overseas as a kid. Living overseas does not give you foreign policy experience, unless you are an Ambassador, which he was not. If it did, then Senator John McCain would again best Senator Obama’s record since he has lived overseas being a member of the military.

What issue or issues are you going to base your voting decision on? Will it be the economy? National defense? Education? There are so many out there. Because of the current economic situation, a large number of you are going to base your decision on who is best for the economy. I would hope that I have answered this question for you earlier on in this article. Such as pointing out which candidate has promised to raise taxes and spend more reducing jobs and raising the cost to live. But just in case I have not, I have a couple additional items for you to think about. If you look at all of the campaign promises on Senator Obama’s web site, you will see hundreds of them. How is he going to pay for them? I think I answered that already. But, if you add of the costs of all of them, mathematically it is going to cost us a lot more than he will be able to raise in taxes. So many of these are going to be just like so many of his previous campaign promises – they won’t get done. Maybe the economy is not the best issue to use in making a decision for president. What about national defense? In my opinion, if you don’t have a secure nation, the rest of the issues are moot. With Russia and China outspending us two fold to build up their military; with Iran and North Korea toying around with nukes and making threats; with Russia making friends and conducting military exercises not too far from our back door in Venezuela; with Russia helping Iran build nuclear processing material plants; and with the terrorist threat growing in Pakistan (a nuclear country), Afghanistan, Africa, and several other countries throughout the world, I want the most experienced and tested person in that office. Not some junior Senator that has absolutely no experience in national security. The economy is important, but national defense is a must. Remember, if our country is not secure, then the economy means nothing, our freedom is in jeopardy, and our lives as we know them today could easily be drastically changed in a moments notice. Just ask the citizens of the country of Georgia. One last point: Have you see who is openly supporting Senator Obama in the news? Iran and the terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah have made public statements that they would prefer Sen. Obama to win. Go figure.

So after reading this, where do you stand? The differences in these two candidates are very apparent. On one hand, you have an individual with many years of applicable “real world” experience, has been a public servant and leader for about 50 years, has a proven record to reduce taxes and government spending, and is dedicated to growing the US economy and jobs. On the other hand, you have an individual with very little experience, questionable associations, has a proven record to increase taxes, government spending, and earmarks, and has promised to increase taxes and government spending. As I said at the beginning of this article, I cannot imagine why anyone in their right mind, after doing a real comparison of the two candidates, would vote for Senator Obama. I admit, he presents himself well and has a good appearance, as long as he has a teleprompter to read from. So the bottom line is what do you want in the next president, appearance or substance?

Now for those of you who blame President Bush for everything, consider this: George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.

A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high.
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon.
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) The DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, and living large!

But American's wanted 'CHANGE'!

So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right.

In the PAST YEAR:

1) Consumer confidence has plummeted.
2) Gasoline went over $4 a gallon and was climbing, until the stock market crashed.
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase).
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping.
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) As I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~ $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!

YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE...AND WE SURE GOT IT! ...

REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.

AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!!!!

JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?

MO for the O said...

Wow Glen M. You sure are bitter. Barack Obama is going to win this election and you're going to learn to like it. Google brevity of expression before you go on another of your late night rants.

Anonymous said...

I agree she's terrible, but it's really uncool to go around publishing people's addresses. This woman seems unbalanced, and you could be putting her in danger.

Be a good Obama supporter and take the high road.

Anonymous said...

Hey Glen M., Great comments. I read about 5% of this before falling asleep. A lot of effort for the few people who'll read this to the end and quite honestly, what I did read comes off as a little desperate for the cause.

Anonymous said...

I didn't read that entire rant, just the numbered bit, but a few points - firstly, from what I understand, the last debate moderator was very pro-McCain, possibly even friends with him, if I remember correctly. Secondly, if the media is so anti-McCain, how come they make such a big deal about things like Michelle's "proud of my country" comment, and totally ignore things like Todd Palin talking about Alaska and America as if they're two different places? How come they made a huge deal of Reverend Wright's "God damn America", and all but ignore similar comments by Todd Palin's cessetionist group, a group that Sarah Palin has "palled around with"? And why have her and McCain's respective whack-job ministers gotten very little attention, while the Reverend Wright thing was headline news for weeks? And those are just a few examples that make it hard for me to believe in this so-called anti-McCain bias.

As for the campaign funds, no doubt if McCain really believed he had enough support to take in the kind of contributions Obama has, he would have accepted public funds as well. And the main reason the unpopularity of the incumbant president has worked against McCain is because he's followed in his footsteps, voting with him 90% of the time these past couple years, and planning on continuing a lot of the same policies. What has also gone against him is the hardcore negative campaigning he and his party have engaged in and been unwilling to abandon even in the face of the polls plummeting the more negative, unfounded crap they came out with.

So as far as I'm concerned, McCain is losing because of who he is, his stand on the issues, his poor choice of running mate, and the way he ran his campaign. Just the fact that Obama was able to run such a successful campaign speaks to his decision-making and leadership abilities, nevermind the fact that he makes it a point to surround himself with intelligent people, as well as the fact that his has been a unifying, not divisive, campaign. Most people are really ready for an end to the fear-mongering, "us against them" mentality, and want to move forward to make their day-to-day lives better, and make America a better country again.


As for publishing that woman's information, while a little part of me cheered and sneered, the more mature part feels that really wasn't a particularly cool thing to do. As reprehensible as her behaviour was, we Obama supporters should really be following his lead and setting an example by taking the high road.

Anonymous said...

P.S. to the above comment of mine:

I just watched the video, and the difference between the judgemental, controlling McCain supporter and the peaceful, 'Candy For Everyone!' Obama supporter perfectly illustrates the difference in the campaigns, and why Obama is getting more widespread support. Americans are understandably hungry for less bitterness and divisivness, and more unity and peace.

Amy McCraken evergreen custom media said...

It's really uncool to go around publishing people's addresses. This woman seems unbalanced, and you could be putting her in danger.